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Poster: glenn Date: Jul 29, 2004 8:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Newbie Q's

EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is a program that can extract an audio cd without errors, but it is not foolproof and takes some expertise to use perfectly.
EAC in the source/lineage info means that there was an audio extraction generation (usually considered a 'bad thing' or at least less desirable than no Extraction Generation, because extraction can introduce digit errors in the file...)
but EAC can do perfect extractions, so not so bad, but could have not been used expertly so possibly bad....
in comparison to
...cdr > wav....
...cdr>EAC>wav would be more'desirable' generally
but even better would be no extraction at all, recording directly from the original wav instead of from the extracted wav.
Taiyo Yuden discs are great 'no name' discs...Fuji (made in japan, not taiwan) are Taiyo Yuden.

TY white's"(discs made by Taiyo Yuden for another company, the overruns have had the company logo printing covered with an additional layer of hard white lacquer) seem to me to be absolutely the best,and they arecheaperthan plain TY discs, if you can get them. The triple-or- more layered top surface makes them really durable, but in quantity, they are significantly heavier(weight). TY whites are not always available,I have gotten them from in the past, or at computer fairs.

I've had generally good results with Sony discs as well. The best really really cheap discs I've used(I use these for audio copies of shn discs to give away)
are called'double dolphin' , I believe they are from japan, rarely coaster one of these, but some have had flaking on the top layer after a year or more. but they are often available cheap enough to be worth it for discs to give out at shows.

I've had problems with blue-colored (recording side) discs, and maxell brand discs

Mitsui are very welcomed in the trading community, "coin of the realm" among b&p traders (Blanks and Postage trades=send blanks, get recorded discs)

for a great collection of FAQS on recording transfer trading,etiquette,tape/disc quality, compression, lossless recording, etc.

using low quality discs can causeyour discs to 'go bad' faster, typicallyacheapdisc might lose parts of the upper protective layer..."

the only way to keepyour recordings safe isto back them up periodically,
which is effectively what you do when you copy it and pass it on losslessly to the community...

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Poster: Hub of Hip Date: Jul 29, 2004 11:16pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Newbie Q's

Glenn -

Check out:
Are those the whites you were talking about?

Thanks for all the great info, too...


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Poster: glenn Date: Jul 30, 2004 2:11am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Newbie Q's

yes,those are them, not a bad price either,thanks for the link I think the cheapestprice I everhad on those was about half that...but that's a good price.

one of the reasons that taiyo yuden is better, if I recall correctly, is that they have some sort of ownership in the technology patent for cdr discs.... I have to be vague onthe details, it's been several years , and I don't remember...but you can probably find out.

So those discs are just like normal good discs, plus they have a LOT of extra top surface, becauseofpainting overthelogo....(sorry my space bar is failing)and are super super durable... never had any problem with the top side of one of these..again,theres a good faq on almost everything in this thread on , if you are 'new' to this,take a look... well written and understandable

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Poster: Hub of Hip Date: Aug 2, 2004 4:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Newbie Q's

Glenn -

I hope you'll get an email when I post this. Found another site for you...check out

$25 / 100 Silver T-Y's, $32 for whites...

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Poster: glenn Date: Aug 2, 2004 11:47am
Forum: etree Subject: disc vendors (was Re: Newbie Q's)

Nice... maybe a thread like "where can I get the best discs cheapest" might be helpful to someone.

I've seen numerous threads on the subject on other boards though, and since these prices only last a certain time, it might not be of that much use.

But yeah,those TY whites are seriously good, especially for cheap discs, and I have to applaud the Taiyo Yuden folk for making them available instead of sending the overruns to some landfill.

That's where all these discs will end up one day.